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Dialogue With the devil


 

ROME — Pope Benedict XVI brought together diplomats from more than 20 Islamic countries Monday and told them that Christians and Muslims must overcome historical enmities and join to reject all forms of violence and intolerance.
The extraordinary gathering at the pope’s summer residence just south of Rome was the latest effort by Benedict to quell the furor stirred two weeks ago by controversial remarks he made about Islam. He is attempting to channel the emotion into what he calls an authentic and respectful dialogue

Expressing his "esteem and profound respect" for Islam’s believers, the pope said world peace and the future of the human race depended in large part on the ability of Christians and Muslims to build "bridges of friendship" and engage one another as they confronted danger and challenges.
"Faithful to the teachings of their own religious traditions, Christians and Muslims must learn to work together … to guard against all forms of intolerance and to oppose all manifestations of violence," the pope said. And as "religious authorities and political leaders, we must guide and encourage them in this direction."

Hmmm, sounds good doesn’t it. Let’s sit down amid reason together and talk and maybe we can come to some kind of agreement that will bring peace in our time. The problem is that very tenants of islam give no place to any other religion except islam. If you are not a muslum, then you are an infidel. If you are a Jew, you are a pig and if you are a follower of the cross, a dog. Infidels must pay a protection tax until they convert to islam. If they refuse they could be killed.

Go to any muslum nation and see if those of other faiths are free to worship and live as they believe they should. Go and try and give out a bible in Saudi Arabia and see what happens. It’s against the law to even bring a bible into that country and they are confiscated at customs. And yet in the west people are free to worship in whatever faith they follow.

The pope should have stood his ground. What he said was the truth. Instead now he wants dialogue with the devil and is calling on all Christians to do the same. I’m sorry but islam is the total opposite to everything Jesus taught. It is a religion born in the pit of hell.

Satan tried to dialogue with Jesus in Matthew 4:1-11

Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry. Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”
But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’”
Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple,  and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written:
‘ He shall give His angels charge over you,’  and,
‘ In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’”
Jesus said to him, “It is written again, ‘You shall not tempt the LORD your God.’”
Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.” 
Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.’”
Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him.

Jesus put the devil in his place. Further we are told that we should not have any partnership or fellowship with the darkness of this world.

Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers [do not make mismated alliances with them or come under a different yoke with them, inconsistent with your faith]. For what partnership have right living and right standing with God with iniquity and lawlessness? Or how can light have fellowship with darkness?

What harmony can there be between Christ and Belial [the devil]? Or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?

What agreement [can there be between] a temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God; even as God said, I will dwell in and with and among them and will walk in and with and among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 2 Cor. 6:14-16

Do not mistake me. God loves the muslum just as much as He loves the Christian. It is the longing of His heart to see them come to the saving knowledge that is found only in Jesus Christ and no other. But there is no common ground between Christianity and islam. There will never be.

We as Christians need to speak up because the world is facing an evil much worse than what came through Hitler and yet most refuse to see it. The world has been blinded to this danger by those who are in the media and the leftists. Muslums who follow the true tenants of islam don’t fear death and embrace martyrdom. They believe it is their right to become rulers of this world and conquer it for allah. They will do what ever is necessary to achieve this.

Martin Niemoller was a protestant pastor in Germany who was arrested and persecuted under Hitler. Don’t think this could happen again, think again.

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892-1984)

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Comments on: "Dialogue With the devil" (4)

  1. That\’s right. We cannot  agree with the muslims or anyone  who dont agree what God  says, at the same table.  I think the Pope feared for his role that may be destroyed if he didn\’t  solve the problem with the muslims and he knew they can  harm him or his building, etc.  We dont need to follow his example, but only Jesus. Pray for our brothers and sisters ….Just need to be ready if one of us could face next same challenged and Jesus will help us with his Wisdom  to say and the strength to be couraged and to overcome  the fears.

  2. Stopping by to say hello.I hope this note finds you well. It\’s been too long since I\’ve been able to visit.May God bless ya! 🙂

  3. i came to see your space to see how you were doing and it made me sad to see that your space has went from a page of gospel messages to an anti-muslim space!
     
    "God loves the muslims but…."  Theres no but!  I know muslims, i\’ve talked with them, it\’s a small group of muslims that resort to violence becasue that\’s how they interpret the koran.  Like Christians who command everyone to live by the 10 commandments when Jesus said all is fullfuilled in one "love thy neighbour"
     
    In romans it says the goodness of God leads people to repentance.  We have been given the ministry of reconciliation, not of condemnation.  Our priority is to show Jesus to people. 
     
    Everyone needs Jesus, and it\’s important that the message of love transends religion, and how our fear based north ameerican media displays small packets of terrorists.   There are small groups of christian extremists and terrorists too.

  4. Duckboy
    It\’s good to see you back and may God bless you in your home and marriage.
    Be awesome careful how you come into judgement concerning your brothers and sisters in Christ. Many are at different levels of maturity and have a ways to go in their understanding of the Gospel. Taking a stand for Jesus for many means not compromising in a world that very much wants you to compromise. Taking a stand means as a minister or a pastor risking jail because you refuse to marry a homosexual couple. It means a life of non-compromise even if you lose friends and family. It means being bold enough to go out and do instead just sitting in a church pew. It means loving those who the world sees as unlovable and loving them even when they spit in your face. Taking a stand for Jesus particularly in a muslim or communist nation means almost certain imprisonment, persecution and in many places death. For some women it means enduring beatings and insults. It means speaking the truth even if some will not like what you have to say.
    In loving your neighbor you are never to compromise your love for God. In doing so you deny Him. Loving your neighbor doesn\’t mean getting into bed with those who are of diferent religions and saying to them let\’s find a common ground. There is none when it comes to Christ. Do we stop loving them and showing them the love of Christ? No not at all it just means that in your loving them don\’t allow your own relationship with Christ to be compimised.
    Proverbs 25:26 says in the Amplified Bible; Like a muddied fountain and a polluted spring is a righteous man who yields, falls down, and compromises his integrity before the wicked.
    Jesus was not afraid to speak up against the religious of His day and was crucified for it. Peter, Paul and all the aposlles followed his example and with the exception of John all died for their public stand for Christ. The religious will always hate the followers of Christ because He has made us a light in a darkened world.
    You said that I said; "God loves the muslims but…."   and then you added – Theres no but!
    Read again what I said
    "Do not mistake me. God loves the muslum just as much as He loves the Christian. It is the longing of His heart to see them come to the saving knowledge that is found only in Jesus Christ and no other. But there is no common ground between Christianity and islam. There will never be."
    You cannot comprimise in your love for them. In comprimising you will lose them not win them to Christ.   It\’s in your loving them and living as God has shown you without comprimise that you will. 
    In North America the muslum radicals may be a small minority, but not so in the rest of the world, my brother. The radical part of islam is growing at an alarming rate. It is coming to the point that almost anyone who speaks out against it recieves death threats. I speak regulary with a young women who\’s husband cannot go back to his native Eygpt because of fear for his life now that he has accepted Christ. In almost all muslum countries it is a crime to convert from islam to Christianity punishable by death. There is no freedom of religion where they are in charge. I also speak to another young woman who is married to a muslum. He is very abusive to her and treats her like a possesion and not a vessel of honor. She has a ministry in reaching out to other women who are caught in simaliar situations around the world. Many are Christians in secret because they fear for their lives.
    The quaran 4:34 says; "Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them. Surely God is high, supreme."
    Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the president of Iran is one of the most dangerous men alive. He stated time and time again that the Arabs should join together and remove Israel from the face of the earth. He makes it no secret that he is an anti-semite. If Iran gets nucular weapons he will not hesitate to use it.
    As for the media displaying small pockets of terrorists. How about the hundreds of thousands that showed up in Beruit in support of Hezbollah last week and yet no mention of a larger Christian demonstraion a few days later? How about 25 churches burnt down in Nigiria last week because a Christian girl refused a muslim boy\’s advances? How about the 3 pastors who were falsly accused of inciting riots and bombings that were exectuted in Malaysia last week? How about the kidnappings and salvery of Christians that goes on in Sudan everyday? How about how in Somalia mass conversions are being made at gunpoint and the threat of death? How about the young man who was shot through the head because he refused to kneel down and pray to allah during a muslum festival in Somalia? I could go on and on.
    And yet the funniest thing is that the muslim community is mostly silent when it comes to objecting to these things within their own communities. Instead they ask  for more tollerence.
    You would say that they are not following the quran. The problem is, that they are. It is the ones in North America and other areas that are not. Islam was always a religion that was inforced by the sword. It is just in the later part of this century that it has tried to put on a gentler, kinder face.
    In saying that there are small pockets of Christians that are terroists. Search Google and tell me how much you find and then do the same for muslims.
    If exposing the truth about islam and it\’s dangers is something that I am condemmed for. So be it. But if one muslim realizes the truth and that truth sets him free, then it is all worth it. I may offend some, but so did Jesus.
    Your brother in Christ
    Gerry

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